While the start of the regular season is still a ways away, it’s never too soon to rank the available talent in the league, starting with the point guard position, where Cleveland Cavaliers estranged floor general Kyrie Irving ranked a mere seventh out of 30, according to HoopsHype’s Mika Honkasalo.

These projections show another two Eastern Conference point guards above Irving. Here is the top 10:

  1. Stephen Curry (Golden State Warriors)
  2. Russell Westbrook (Oklahoma City Thunder)
  3. Chris Paul (Houston Rockets)
  4. John Wall (Washington Wizards)
  5. Damian Lillard (Portland Trail Blazers)
  6. Isaiah Thomas (Boston Celtics)
  7. Kyrie Irving (Cleveland Cavaliers)
  8. Kyle Lowry (Toronto Raptors)
  9. Mike Conley (Memphis Grizzlies)
  10. Goran Dragic (Miami Heat)

Out of the 10-best point guards, only Dragic has been rumored to be part of a trade, and that was only due to the remote possibility of Irving landing with the Heat.

The one-spot has become so precious in the league that almost no team is willing to trade theirs once they find a valuable player to run the offense.

Irving has been mired by his defensive deficiencies and at times his unwillingness to get back in transition to help his teammates as a team defender. While not many point guards are particularly good defenders, Irving’s complete lapses of focus and sometimes half-spirited efforts to defend make him a liability and at times a nightmare to coach when he replicates his lack of effort in the playoffs.

He’s proven to be a powerhouse as an isolation player but hasn’t tapped into his full potential, remaining a scoring first-and-always type of point guard instead of looking for ways to create offense for others.

The 25-year-old’s talent as a one-on-one player is undeniable, especially coming off a career year — but Thomas and Lillard also enjoyed career-best seasons, making this a tough shave in the top 10 projections for this upcoming season.